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. >> government is not the solution to our problem. government is the problem. ronald reagan's perspective has dominated republicans' thoughts on this matter for years. >> we have a different approach, the president and i, between a government-dominated society and a society driven by free people pursuing their dreams. >> reporter: romney insists the federal government should be smaller and less intrusive in terms of regulations and taxes and largely it should keep out of the free market. >> i line up with a smaller government, a less intrusive government, regulations being pared back. >> such views on both sides of course can make a difference. but here is the catch. for the past century, with a few exceptions, the government has been expanding no matter which party has held the white house. more cabinet positions, more agencies, more spending per citizen and much of that is driven by things like we menged at the start. population growth, economic trends and entitlements, meaning the question is probably not whether the government will keep growing under mr. obama or mr. romney, but rather ho
clear winner, 1980 you have carter versus governor ronald reagan at the time. let's take a look. >> these are the kind of elements of the national health insurance for the american people. governor reagan again typically is against such a proposal. >> governor? >> here you go again. >> so who won? >> it's a ronald reagan win and really because he kept employing that disarming phrase there you go again. to carter he never really had an answer. he looked very awkward afterwards and that was obviously a pre-rehearsed line that reagan unleashed on carter to great effect. right now you see barack obama and mitt romney trying to find their version of their "you go again" hoping it could perhaps score some points. we're critiquing not just the speech but the body language and that little bit of interaction between the two men and there's a duel going on there that we try to decipher and phrases like that when they score are considered knock out punches. >> there was another moment of body language in 1980 when vice president al gore made an unusual move towards then governor george w.
that element or the fact that he knew how to perform in public? he was comfortable doing it. >> ronald reagan knew the way he looked from every single direction so that when he made a gesture on camera he knew how that would come across on tv. for that carter was no match. >> okay. let's take a look at the chart we just brought up there from gallup. it shows how polls changed over the course of the debates in some of the most memorable elections. have any races in your estimation, michael, been won or lost solely in the debates? >> well, aside from the reagan-carter -- that was a special case because there was only one. it was ten days before. you showed the beginning, alex, of that terrible faux-pas saying the -- gerald ford probably would have won it without that faux-pas. >>> the numbers here for 1960. we had john f. kennedy who gained three percentage points after that performance that he gave while richard nixon continuously lost ground thereafter. the story goes that it was kennedy's tan, his youthful look that won him the first televised debate. do you think that's the full stor
channel station, who radio, when ronald reagan was on -- now, that is a republican radio station, yet they carry rush limbaugh. are you going to tell me rush limbaugh is not biased? your guess is full of beans in my opinion. thank you. guest: we have never tried to say that there is not a balance in the media system, that talk radio has not in a sense risen up because conservatives were looking for an alternative media channel where they could discuss things. when we analyze the news media, we are talking about the news media which claims to be objective. i do not think rush limbaugh claims to be objective in any way. i do not think that the liberal talk radio hosts that are out there accusing mitt romney of being a toad and a vampire would tell you they are an objective out of it. the whole question is -- the mainstream media that are the only ones being chosen to moderate our debate -- you know, there is no fox news mind control of who gets to moderate our debate. they claim to be objective. we would like to hold them accountable to that. host: did somebody really call mitt rom
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